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Bahá'í Faith

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The purpose of this project is to provide a collaborative environment for WikiTree members researching genealogies of members of the Baha'i Faith.

The goals of this project include:

  • Improving existing profiles of Baha'is, including biographies, family connections, sources, and categories
  • Identifing and adding new profiles for Baha'is, with attention to proper sourcing, biographies, and family connections
  • Creating and managing pages for key sources for biographical and genealogical information about Baha'is
  • Working with the categorization project to maintain and appropriately develop subcategories for the Baha'i Faith
  • Working with the technical experts on WikiTree concerning issues arising from use of multiple scripts (notably the right-to-left Arabic script used in Arabic, Persian, etc.)

Contents

Approach to adding & improving profiles

What we're hoping to achieve with each profile is in line with the basics of Wikitree:

  1. Making sure the person has at least the basic information: exact birth & death dates, places, etc.;
  2. Completing a basic biography including a mention of the person's work with the Baha'i Faith;
  3. Connecting that person to other family members on WikiTree; and
  4. Incorporating sources for the above information and relationships.

For example:

It is important to remember that everything is a work-in-progress. Oftentimes we don't have/can't find all of the information right away. So, we add what we have (i.e., "start with what you know"), and if more info comes to light later on, OR, if someone else comes by who can add more, then we add it. The great thing about WikiTree is that it's a collaborative effort. We don't all need to be professional genealogists to help one another. We also don't need to be great writers or even great researchers. We just do what we can and work together to build our collective history.

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Will you join us? Please post a comment here on this page, in G2G using the project tag, or send a private message. Thanks!





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I have discovered there are two (2) profiles for Richard St. Barbe Baker, and have proposed a merger.
posted by Malcolm Sargent
Thank you, Malcolm. I posted this reply to the merge request, and copy it here:

It looks like there's a question of how to list his family name (or "Last Name at Birth," LNAB). This would be a key consideration in how to merge the two profiles (which as you note, represent the same person).

My impression was that the LNAB would be "Baker." One notes that his father and some of his siblings also had the surname "St. Barbe" before "Baker," but that his paternal grandfather did not. Was the family name compounded at some point?

Note the difference in treatment of his name by the Bahá'i Encyclopedia and Wikipedia.

I'll pose the question to some who may have an answer and follow up.

posted by Don Osborn
As far as I can tell, his LNAB was "Baker".

His World War I service record lists him as Baker, Richard Edward St Barbe , which is also how he appears in the 1889 England civil birth index.

The 1891 England Census has him as Richard St Barbe Baker and his father as John St Barbe Baker, but his mother is just Charlotte S. Baker. In fact, apart from the 1911 census, Charlotte Sophia Purrott Baker is never referred to by "St Barbe" on any legal document.

Richard St Barbe Baker appears to have started using "St Barbe" as a first name some time after WWI. Which is also the same time that his siblings began using "St Barbe" as part of their surname; apart from one sister, none of their birth records list it. I think you may be right that at some point it morphed into a combined surname! However...

His second wife is just Catriona Baker, not Catriona St Barbe Baker. Not sure about his children, who appear to be still living.

And then there are his books. The National Library of Australia has his 1944 edition of "I planted trees" under Baker, Richard St Barbe.

I can't remember it now, but I'm sure I've come across a biography where he or someone else wondered where the St Barbe name came from. His father was John Richard St Barbe Baker, and it was theorised that he was named after Sir Richard St Barbe, who lived in the 13th century.

Apologies for prattling on, but there it is.

posted by Vicky (Freeth) Majewski
edited by Vicky (Freeth) Majewski
Thanks, Vicki, for the added info and the merge. It may actually be worth a "research note" on the profile regarding the family name, as it seems to get complicated. I just came across a website with some background on "St. Barbe," including the fact that RESBB's father had actually registered "St. Barbe Baker." See https://stbarbebaker.wordpress.com/2016/05/31/st-barbe-the-family-name/ (this page also indicates uncertainty over the reason for use of St. Barbe.)

That said, the evidence you cite indicates that the original family name of "Baker" continued to be used.

BTW, the webpage cited also has more info on RESBB's first marriage (apparently 1946, and lasting for ~7 years) and two children.

posted by Don Osborn
Hello Malcom, thanks for bringing the St Barbe Baker duplicate to our attention! I've gone ahead and completed the merge.

Also see you've joined the project, so, welcome!

I'd like to join the project. I'm also a member of the Black Heritage Project. Specifically, i'm currently working on the tree for Kiser Barnes, former member of the UHJ. So I'll probably input everything except the living persons. I might get Kiser to do his own profile and then link that in.
posted by Charles Uzzell
Thank you, Charles, and welcome. Sounds like an interesting and useful project. You are right, of course, that discretion is advised on the topic of living people (personally I never go there except for very close relatives, with their permission). That said, there are privacy controls one can put in place for living people. Anyway, glad to make your acquaintance, and looking forward to communicating further on this and related projects.
posted by Don Osborn
How do I add Knight of Baha'u'llah, Emma Rice i.e. Mandell-112, to the Category of Knights of Baha'u'llah ?

also how do I put it on her profile too ?

posted by Carleton Procter
Hi Carleton,

Thanks for letting us know about her profile!

To add her to the Knights of Baha'u'llah category, Just put this code at the top of her profile page, above the = Biography = heading:

[[Category: Baha'i Knights of Baha'u'llah]]

You might also add the [[Category: 20th Century Baha'is]] as well.

If you need help, let us know and we can add it in!

Kind regards,

Vicky Majewski

posted by Vicky (Freeth) Majewski
edited by Vicky (Freeth) Majewski
Stanwood Cobb would be an excellent pedigree to research. He has a long,

New England, family line.

posted by John Johnson
Thanks John, and welcome to Wikitree. If you haven't already, you can check out his profile at Cobb-7592. There is still work to be done on the profile and on filling out his ancestry (esp. his maternal line). Have you done any research on him, or any genealogical work on his family?
posted by Don Osborn
I am a member of the Baha'i faith and would love to do this.
posted by Christine Sumner
Thanks Christine, and welcome to Wikitree. If you haven't already, please check the "to do" page linked above. Have you done genealogical research elsewhere? It's not necessary, just curious. See the "Approach to adding & improving profiles" section just now added above for more info.
posted by Don Osborn